Ep. 156: Algorithms won't get us to AGI | Johannes Jaeger

April 10, 2024
Trent Fowler

Watch our full interview with Dr. Johannes Jaegar on Youtube.

Since the release of ChatGPT, we've been hearing that artificial general intelligence is either here, or just around the corner. Our latest podcast episode featuring the esteemed Dr. Johannes Jaeger tackles this claim head-on!

Dr. Jaeger is not your typical scientist. As a systems scientist, evolutionary biologist, educator, and natural philosopher, he has dedicated his career to unraveling the mysteries of complex adaptive systems. From heading an empirical lab to directing an institute for the philosophy of biology, Dr. Jaeger's transdisciplinary approach has shed new light on the fundamental differences between machines and organisms.

In our thought-provoking interview, Dr. Jaeger delves into his groundbreaking research, which explores the essence of organismic agency and its implications for evolution. Dr. Jaeger challenges conventional wisdom by demonstrating that what sets organisms apart from non-living matter is their innate capacity to make sense of the world—an embodied form of rationality that arises from their autopoietic, anticipatory, and adaptive organization.

Dr. Jaeger's insights into the process of relevance realization show us something profound: organismic agency transcends computational approaches and emerges from an adaptive and emergent evolutionary dialectic.

Don't miss this captivating discussion as Dr. Jaeger takes us on a journey into the essence of life itself. Tune in to the full episode now and discover the transformative power of organismic agency in shaping our understanding of the world.

If you're intrigued by the mysteries of evolution and consciousness, this episode is a must-listen! And don't forget to subscribe to the podcast for more enlightening conversations with leading thinkers in science and philosophy.

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